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It's true.  TWGH and I have been watching the DNC Rules Committee meeting ALL DAY. 

Here's what TWGH looks like every time Harold Ickes speaks:


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  • 6/1/2008 11:06 AM Dan wrote:
    Do you mean THE Harold Ickes who was instrumental in getting Bill Clinton a Democrat elected to two terms. Who also contributed to all the policy successes that are too numerous to mention, like Welfare Reform, the Crime Bill, 100,000 more police officers on the street and the Ireland peace accord just to name a few. You mean that Harold Ickes? Harold Ickes who has been hired or asked to consult in over 48% of the congressional wins in 2006? That Harold Ickes? Obama will win, stop drinking his Kool Aid and remember the Clintons were fighting the good fight before anyone knew who the hell Obama was.
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  • 6/1/2008 12:30 PM well read hostess wrote:
    Harold Ickes is a sleazebag. Full stop. I didn't drink any kool-aid, but it appears as if you've become scarily cynical. What happened to your HOPE and idealism? The Clintons might fight, and at one time I believe it was a good fight, but there is nothing good about the way they are fighting now. They've drunk their own kool-aid and can't bear to walk away from what they believe is their rightful position of power. Oops. Maybe they forgot...it's not about them.
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    1. 6/2/2008 9:28 AM Dan wrote:
      Yes he his a sleazebag that gets results, which in politics is really what is all about. If Obama doesn't win, what has this all been for? Why is it cynical to understand politics as they currently exist? Clinton has a lot of votes, maybe more than Senator Obama at the end of the day, doesn't that entitle them to explore every opportunity they might have to win? As for it being about them, that might be a little bit of a stretch. Was it about her in China speaking about women's rights in the world. Was it about her working for the Children's Defense Fund? Was it about her, championing a law to get children covered with health care? The fact that she is disappointed that she isn't going to win is a normal human reaction. Would blogs such as yours and mainstream media be so impatient about getting out of the race with any other candidate that wasn't a woman? She has every right to fight until the end. And Senator Obama better drink some Clinton Kool Aid if he hopes to have a chance in PA, Ohio. WV, Florida. He is going to need her, face the facts, he can't win without her.
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